Showing posts with label Jock Drummond. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jock Drummond. Show all posts

Wednesday, 4 June 2014

Jock Drummond


Jock Drummond was not properly a Falkirk Bairn, but he was good enough for me, the family was living here by the time of the 1881 Census. he was originally from the Hillfoots. But it would seem he grew up in the town [so if it was up to me I would give him a passport]. Like many of the great players for Falkirk FC he seems to come out of nowhere, but this is more to to do with the lack of 2nd XI matches being reported, then, as now, in the local press.

In his time at Falkirk Jock spent a lot of time at left back, but I suspect this may be more to do do with the fact his partner would have been worse. He was a class above Stirlingshire football. He even extendended his range to play when needed, at Left-Half. In his memoirs [published in the Rangers Historian [a surprisingly un-bigoted publication]] he remembered learning under Pat Murphy to play LB.

According to the Falkirk Herald, before he moved to Rangers [you must remember this was a time before the current nonsense] he was scouted & tempted by English clubs like Wolves, Preston etc, but he stayed in Scotland. But not because he was a hun, because he had a fine job as a Bank Clerk in Falkirk, and refused to leave the town, he would travel to the match on Saturday, but he would never leave the town.

After a long career with Rangers he returned to Falkirk, but not really as a player, but a director, well more as a director who would play when needed. He did not play much second time around, but must have been a great boon to the others about him.

John Drummond has a few things about him which will never go away, he was the first Falkirk player to play for Scotland: he is the first player known to have scored a goal from a Penalty Kick for the Club [Falkirk scored another two weeks before, but the scorer was not recorded], he is another who played before his 18th birthday.

When it came for him to eventually hang up his boots he was was only playing in goals [but still playing] he played for Falkirk FC in a post-season tour of 'the North' when he played against a Morayshire XI on the 7th May 1907 [this being the 20 years & 21 Days after the first time he turned out for that amateur team].


[I like this pic, aged 16 from the 2nd XI before he even played a First XI Match]
[Sorry about the quality, but, I was not there]

John Drummond

b 13th April 1870, Alva, Stirlingshire
d 23rd January 1935, Falkirk, Stirlingshire

Debut – Saturday April 16th 1887 v Alloa Athletic (H) Friendly

Positions – Left-Back, Centre-Half, Left-Half, Right-Back
Representative Honours – Scotland v Ireland 1891/92, Stirlingshire v Linlithgowshire 1888/89, v Fife 1890/91, vForfarshire v 1890/91, 1891/92

Club Honours – Stirlingshire Cup W 1889/90, RU 1891/92, Falkirk District Charity Cup W 1889/90, 1891/92, RU1890/91, Falkirk Infirmary Shield W 1891/92, RU 1889/90, 1890/91

Scottish Cup Matches /Goals [12/-]
Scottish Qualifying Cup Matches/Goals [1/-]
Minor League Matches/Goals [11/1]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [30/1]
Other Matches/Goals [87/4]

Known Career – Falkirk [1886/87-1892/93], Rangers [1891/92-1903/04], Falkirk [1904/05-1906/07]

Selected for the 1891/92 International Trials.

Played for Zingari v Falkirk Excelsior, Friendly at Tannery Pk, Falkirk, 28th April 1887
Played for Falkirk Caledonians v Redding Athletic, Friendly at Redding, 5th May 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Vale of Avon, Friendly at Redding, 8th June 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Kilsyth Wanderers, Friendly at Garrell Garden Pk, Kilsyth, 10th September 1887
Played for Falkirk District XI v Rangers Ibroxonians, Benefit Match at Brockville Pk, Falkirk, 11th June 1889
Played for Dunblane 2nd XI v Falkirk 2nd XI, Friendly at Brockville Pk, Falkirk, 18th January 1890
Played for King's Park v Hurlford, Friendly at Forthbank Pk, Stirling, 1st January 1891

Scored Falkirk's first recorded goal from a penalty kick, v Glasgow Wanderers (H) September 12th 1891, Scottish Federation

Cousin of George Drummond. [Falkirk 1899/00-1901/02]

Made his League debut for Falkirk 17 Years 126 Days after his Falkirk 1st XI debut

Friday, 7 June 2013

Falkirk FC Reserves 1886/87


Yet another picture of Falkirk FC-ish from the dim and distant past, I particularly like this photo because it is a picture of the reserve team, and every member of this reserve team played at least once for the first team. As with most reserves sides most of the players never had the same impact as others. Besides I would never have a picture of Falkirk's great Inside-Right Thomas McDonald, or William Law [the first player to be sent off in Stirlingshire] without finding this.


The team is

Thomas Bellingham, George Kerr, John Drummond, Robert Rae, Robert Sibbald
Robert Symington, John Devlin, William Law
Thomas McDonald, George Rae, William Murphy

But more importantly to the wider community of Scottish Football historians, this might be the earliest surviving picture of Jock Drummond who at one point was Scotland's most capped player. He is at the centre of the back row, and he would have been about 16 or 17 at this point. I have been looking for Jock Drummond's grave in Camelon for a while, but have yet to find it. I am beginning to fear that he was cremated.

I would go on about Jock Drummond's Falkirk career, but what can I say? He was good, he got capped, moved to play for the Huns, came back. There are learned people who have written better stuff about him than I. In the real world the family moved to Falkirk when he was young, they lived in the 'Grahamsford' area of town, he was a junior Bank clerk. He became famous at football. When he returned he lived near the High Station.

John Drummond

b 13th April 1870, Alva, Stirlingshire
d 23rd January 1935, Falkirk, Stirlingshire

Debut – Saturday April 16th 1887 v Alloa Athletic (H) Friendly
League Debut – Saturday August 20th 1904 v Aberdeen (A) Scottish League Division 2

Positions – Left-Back, Centre-Half, Left-Half, Right-Back

Representative Honours – Scotland v Ireland 1891/92, Stirlingshire v Linlithgowshire 1888/89, v Fife 1890/91, v Forfarshire v 1890/91, 1891/92

Club Honours – Scottish League Division 2 RU 1904/05, Stirlingshire Cup W 1889/90, RU 1891/92, Falkirk District Charity Cup W 1889/90, 1891/92, RU 1890/91, Falkirk Infirmary Shield W 1891/92, RU 1889/90, 1890/91

Scottish League Division 2 Matches/Goals [13/-]
Scottish Cup Matches /Goals [12/-]
Scottish Qualifying Cup Matches/Goals [2/-]
Minor League Matches/Goals [13/1]
Minor Cup Matches/Goals [33/1]
Other Matches/Goals [97/4]
Total Matches/Goals [170/6]

Played for Zingari v Falkirk Excelsior, Friendly at Tannery Pk, Falkirk, 28th April 1887
Played for Falkirk Caledonians v Redding Athletic, Friendly at Redding, 5th May 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Vale of Avon, Friendly at Redding, 8th June 1887
Played for Redding Athletic v Kilsyth Wanderers, Friendly at Garrell Garden Pk, Kilsyth, 10th September 1887
Played for Falkirk District XI v Rangers Ibroxonians, Benefit Match at Brockville Pk, Falkirk, 11th June 1889
Played for King's Park v Hurlford, Friendly at Forthbank Pk, Stirling, 1st January 1891

Known Career – Falkirk [1886/87-1892/93], Rangers [1891/92-1903/04], Falkirk [1904/05-1906/07]

Notes
Scored Falkirk's first recorded goal from a penalty kick, v Glasgow Wanderers (H) September 12th 1891, Scottish Federation
Cousin of George Drummond. [Falkirk 1899/00-1901/02]
Made his League debut for Falkirk 17 Years 126 Days after his Falkirk 1st XI debut
Played  his last match for Falkirk [Friendly v Morayshire XI (A) May 7th 1907] 20 Years 21 Days after his debut.

I have his playing record whilst at Rangers somewhere but cannot seem to find it right now, it is a shame as I would like to put his complete career here.