Showing posts with label Derby. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Derby. Show all posts

Thursday, 10 October 2013

Reading beyond the Sporting Columns


I must admit, when researching the game in the past, when it is a paper I know well, for example the Falkirk Herald I often skip most of the paper, I read the sports columns, and I read the local news. I know I should read every line of both the Saturday and Wednesday Editions [as it used to be], but that takes so much time, and it makes your eyes hurt, and it makes you never want to read another paper for the rest of your life.

This gets me through seasons much more rapidly, but it means I miss a lot of little things, it also means I can not take in the game in the wider context of society, if I had more time/patience I would do so. But every so often something just catches my eye, a name I recognise, or something and I get an insight into the world of football in Falkirk beyond twenty two men chasing the leather.

Towards the end of the 1889/90 season Falkirk & East Stirlingshire were as ever in contention for the local cups on offer, and this season the two clubs were again having one of their on-off lover's tiffs and refusing to play each other in friendly matches [even though the match was always a big draw]. The first meeting of the two teams that season was to be the final of the Falkirk Cottage Hospital Shield held, as usual, at Camelon's Victoria Pk. East Stirlingshire won 5-3 and that is all I had in my notes.

Then a couple of years on looking for something else completely I just noticed a little article in the papers not in the Sports column but surrounding the game, well more the aftermath of the game. It seems that at least some of the 'Shire lads went out that night to celebrate their victory. There is very little of concrete to go on, it would seem [to my biased eyes] that in their revelry four "shireites" [at least two of them [Thomas Dunn & Andrew inches] seem to have been ESFC players] having lost an argument on the relative merits of the two teams with a single Falkirk fan decided to beat the crap out of him. What else do you expect from Bainsford?


Whether Andrew Inches was ESFC's legendary half or not I can't say, but it is not a common name ... and there is a problem with the change of name from Dunn to Burns in the two reports so it might not have been the Thomas Dunn. Millar/Miller and Chestnut I do not know, but they may have been in the reserves .... and, of course Falkirk had a forward called Nimmo at the time...


All in all I think we should just learn the lesson not to be around the same pub the next time ESFC win something, just to make sure.

Wednesday, 20 October 2010

Falkirk v East Stirlingshire Part I

I like to do things in parts I often have too much info on stuff to publish everything at once. So in honour of the "World's Greatest Derby" I have decided to eventually publish as much detail as I have of every single match between there two great rivals, in order -

27th August 1881 at Randyford Pk, Falkirk [Friendly]
East Stirlingshire 0 Falkirk 5
East Stirlingshire - Unknown.
Falkirk - Unknown.
Scorers - Unknown.

31st December 1881 at Blinkbonny Field, Falkirk [Friendly]
Falkirk 3 East Stirlingshire 1
Falkirk - Unknown.
East Stirlingshire - Unknown.
Scorers - Unknown.
Note - Another source states 3-0.

20th April 1882 at Bainsford [Friendly]
East Stirlingshire 1 Falkirk 6
East Stirlingshire - --: P.Mitchell & --; -- & --; -- & --, -- & --, -- & --.
Falkirk - --; -- & J.Leishman; -- & --; D.Fleming & --, R.Gibson & --, W.Gibson & A.Ferguson.
Scorers - Unknown : R.Gibson, Unknown (5)

2nd September 1882 at Merchiston Pk, Bainsford [Friendly]
East Stirlingshire 0 Falkirk 4
East Stirlingshire - G.Mitchell; P.Mitchell & J.Anderson; R.Kidston & R.Sharp; A.Cockburn & J.Stewart, L.McLachlan & ?.Taylor, P.McGregor & J.Neil.
Falkirk - A.Turnbull; J.Murphy & J.Mitchell; J.Balloch & H.Hendry; T.Hamilton & D.Fleming, R.Gibson & A.Hendry, G.Robb & W.Gibson.
Scorers - T.Hamilton, R.Gibson, A.Hendry, Unknown.
Notes - This was probably the first ever match to be played at Merchiston Pk. James Neil for East Stirlingshire had previously played for Falkirk, he was the first of many to cross that divide.

13th January 1883 at Blinkbonny Field, Falkirk [Friendly]
Falkirk 4 East Stirlingshire 1
Falkirk - --; J.Mitchell & --; -- & --; T.Hamilton & --, W.Sanderson & --, A.Ferguson & --.
East Stirlingshire - Unknown.
Scorers - T.Hamilton, A.Ferguson (2), W.Sanderson : Unknown.

18th August 1883 at Merchiston Pk, Bainsford [Friendly]
East Stirlingshire - Unknown.
Falkirk - Unknown.

27th October 1883 at Merchiston Pk, Bainsford [Friendly]
East Stirlingshire - A.Cockburn; -- & --; -- & --; -- & --, -- & --, -- & --.
Falkirk - --; -- & --; -- & --; -- & --, -- & --, -- & W.Gibson.
Scorers - Unknown : W.Gibson, Unknown.
Crowd - 500+.

29th March 1884 at Lock 16, Camelon [Stirlingshire Cup Final]
Falkirk 1 East Stirlingshire 1
Falkirk - A.Turnbull; W.Hamilton & J.Murphy; H.Hendry & J.Balloch; W.Taylor & A.Ferguson, T.Hamilton & A.Hendry, R.Gibson & W.Gibson.
East Stirlingshire - A.Cockburn; P.Mitchell & J.Anderson; T.Williamson, A.Inches & K.McKenzie; N.McLauchlan & L,McLachlan, P.McGregor, W.Dunn & R.Sharp.
Scorers - W.Taylor : W.Dunn.
Crowd - c2000.
Note - The Lock 16 ground was Tayavalla's home ground and was then generally accepted to be the best in Stirlingshire.

5th April 1884 at Lock 16, Camelon [Stirlingshire Cup Final Replay]
Falkirk 3 East Stirlingshire 1
Falkirk - A.Turnbull; W.Hamilton & J.Murphy; H.Hendry, R.Bishop & J.Balloch; W.Taylor & A.Ferguson, T.Hamilton, R.Gibson & W.Gibson.
East Stirlingshire - A.Cockburn; P.Mitchell & J.Anderson; T.Williamson, A.Inches & K.McKenzie; N.McLauchlan & L,McLachlan, P.McGregor, W.Dunn & R.Sharp.
Scorers - W.Taylor (2), R.Gibson : R.Sharp.
Crowd - c2500-3000.

I was going to do it in blocks of ten, but since this neatly fits three season I think I'll stop at nine for now, enjoy.